Your outline is so brief and fragmented that it is hard to tell what you have in mind. However, your first few paragraphs are off topic — please read the general comments I made on the rough drafts on the “(Almost) Daily Bulletin from the Professor” page this morning. Lydia Fish September 22, 2008, at 02:45 PM
Your draft is kinda fragmented. It’s good that you’re talking about all the plot elements that had to be shifted from the Two Towers to RotK, you just need to elaborate a bit more and find more examples in different areas of the film making. Brian Nacov September 18, 2008, at 04:32 PM
I like how you talk about the movies being made of chapters from different books and why it is done. Great organization. Make sure you just focus on Return of the King stuff though. Sounds good
Donald Turner September 18, 2008, at 03:15 PM
Good points are made. They just need to be developed in the paper. I like your ideas. Sarah Chudyk?
Good organization with the paper, you have mapped out a good paper. You just seem a bit inclusive as it comes to the other movies, certain aspects, such as the Ents are more relevant to the second film. Eligh Hanning?
You have quite a few good points so far. I wonder what details you are planning on talking about? Brittany Thrun ? September 17, 2008, at 10:39 PM
I like your ideas concerning the death of Gollum and the destrcution of the ring— how it had to look like an accident rather than Frodo murdering him. With all the work Jackson did, Tolkien would have to be satisfied for the most part. Devon Cozad? September 17, 2008, at 10:08 AM
Good start. I like the points you wish to discuss. Just make sure you develop some of your ideas a little more for your final paper. Steven Wilser? September 16, 2008, at 11:43 PM
Good start! I think you should really incoroprate the willingnes of the other character to sacrifice themselves to help Frodo and Sam, like you hinted at in your last section, and how Jackson uses this to engage the audience like to book was unable to. You have a unique idea and I think it would pan out well in your final draft. Sarah McNutt September 16, 2008, at 11:15 PM
You have a lot of great ideas. Continue to develop them. I liked your point about how important the action scenes were to the movies. In the text they didn’t run very long, but Jackson needed a climax. Annika Laughlin? September 16, 2008, at 09:01 PM
Your ideas are great. Like mine, they need to be more elaborate. I think if you do this, you will have a fantastic paper. I believe that Tolkien would be happy with the films overall, but I think he would fuss over some of the specifics. Maybe once he knew reasons he would give in? Really focus on the specific points that you came up with! Keilah Bradley September 16, 2008, at 05:09 PM]]
It seems like you are headed in a good direction just make sure you focus more on the Return of the King and the difficulties in creating the final movie rather than the trilogy as a whole. I look forward to reading your final paper and how you elaborate on some of the important points you listed. Carly Lopez?
You have good ideas listed underneath your fourth paragraph. However, the small paragraph that you have written underneath the second one has alot of broad ideas, almost restating what everyone knows. That Jackson helped write the script and produce the film, that he went through alot of difficulties writing the script,etc…It almost sounds like a second introduction. You have great ideas for your third paragraph as well. Just make sure that your paragraphs don’t become too long, and include what Jackson did to make sure the Two Towers scenes/elements worked well with The Return of the King. Lauren Brych? September 15, 2008, at 11:51 AM
I think Tolkien would be proud as well. Not much I can add here, it’s really well thought out. Expand your points, and I think you’ve got a great paper lined up!Joseph Bella? September 14, 2008, at 11:15 PM
I think your paper will be fantastic once you expand on the points listed; they really address the topic of Jackson’s challenges while filming the third movie. I disagree with Kelsey because I don’t think Tolkien would approve of the movies. Part of his world view about evil was lost in Jackson’s version, which is something you can mention when talking about his successes and failures.Emily Marvin? September 13, 2008, at 10:15 PM
I liked your focus on the difficulty and how overwhelming the task of creating these movies must have been. I think that in the last paragraph you should say that Jackson believes that Tolkien would be satisfied with his project, not that he is satisfied. Good job! Kelsey Till September 12, 2008, at 09:30 PM
I feel that once you expand on your points, you will have a good essay. I like how you brought the point of Jackson and the other writers doing tons of re-writes. You might want to expand on this by giving some thoughts about why they would have to do so many. Elizabeth Delano? September 14, 2008, at 06:33 PM
You have list of points and it would be very interesting to see how you develope them. You might want to cut short the list of points that you have raised so that you can fully develop the ones that chose to. If not, then you may raise a lot of points in your final essay and attempt to develope them but not fully. Trudy Antwi September 14, 2008, at 10:40 PM
- Just to let you know, I found your original draft that you claimed to have done that was erased. Apparently, when you change the main link title, it erases whatever you had done in that like as I also found out. But I have learned that if you go into the page history at the top of the right corner, you can find your orginal work on the page. I am sorry though that you had to do the whole thing over again but maybe if you forgot something, you can see it now.
your welcome and sorry that happened to you,
Don Turner
I haven’t really thought about how I will put everything together but I do know the things that I want to discuss.
- the problems Shippey forsees with filming ROTK.
- Discuss successes of the first two films
- each will be described with in depth details!
— JAckson’s choices of what scenes should definitely be included in the film, what things Tolkien didn’t describe properly in the book but would be necessary to describe in detail in order to have a successful movie. Very important decision xlong movie vs. xxlong movie! =[
— the importance of action scenes in order to keep the audience involved and interested.
—Jackson’s mission to show the growth and development of all characters from the FOTR all the way to the ROTK as well as making sure he accurately portrayed the characters.
— To me the jump from Aragorn and the fellowship, Merry & Pippin with the Ents, and Frodo & Sam with Gollum was a difficult task. Jackson tried his best to make everything flow smoothly but as I watched the movie and we switched from one group to the next I still found myself saying “Oh yeah… what’s up with blah, blah”
— Discuss the grea job that Jackson did creating the LOTR films and difficult task of incorporating all the important info.
OK so that’s the main gist of everything that I want to incorporate but as I do more research I may add more points o discuss.
Donald Turner September 15, 2008, at 12:15 PM
Intro
Filming a book is not something that can be done successfully without lots of blood, sweat and tears. Directors who take on these projects are prepared for the hardwork ahead of them. But when a book is written in a roundabout manner with lots of details and a lot of nothing intertwined, the process of going form page to screen is even harder. Thus was the task of Peter Jackson, director of all three LOTR films based on the world renowned books by JRR Tolkien.
1st paragraph:
According to Shippey, there were problems turning the LOTR books into great films. -note what he said about first two books -dwell on what he believed would go wrong, or be hard to do rather, in the third book--- Return of the King.
*the ending!
2ndparagraph:
Background about Jackson and his undertaking of the LOTR. -loved the book when he first read it -thought someone would eventually turn it into a movie, turned out to be him -production company hassle. - constantly rewriting the script.. even throughout filiming.
3rd paragraph: Problems Jackson faced trying to bring Tolkien’s vision to screen. Jackson realized: -things that needed to be revamped in FOTR and TT in order to make it easier for ROTK. - making Arwen a ‘major’ character. More material was created for her than was in the book. - TT script had to be sacrificed. Book about nothing AND timeline of TT and ROTK was misconstrued, some things were happening at the same time but were in two different books. -Had to keep people interested! - Things that occurred in TT were placed into ROTK:
- isengard
- palantir
- death of saruman
-took out the chapter scouring of the shire
4th paragraph:
discussing ACTUAL difficulties of climax to endings of ROTK -redundant climax -the Fellowship thought Frodo was dead, the audience knew he was still alive - Aragorn = hero, put his life on the line. - must show love between Aragorn and Arwen. -fight between Frodo and Gollum—had to look accidental and because of greed. -making sure they included the little details that LOTR fanatics would look for.
Conclusion: -Tolkien is satisfied. After tons of edits, changes and simplifications. Pulling from The Appendices, the Hobbit, and the LOTR trilogy as well as the opinions of actors and helpers around him Jackson has produced works of art. LOTR has -list amount of awards and other honors.
- as my research continues, I will definitely add more to the different points.
